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that will skew the numbers. >> are you done, jim? jim's observations are correct. when i first started factcheck.org, this was late 2003, we went live late in 2003, in the middle of the democratic primary process, they were all about democrats, because george bush was wisely keeping his mouth shut while howard dean and others savaged each other and told horrible falsehoods about each other. when we defend one republican against a falsehood said by another republican -- i have not rejected the idea that we are singling out either party for undue attention. if not, rachel maddow -- what he has said about liberals. she complains on the air time and time again about what he has said about liberals. what we do -- if i would fire a reporter for turning copy -- we look at all of the statements we possibly can. we love to debunk false claims. i think "the weekly standard" would agree. when we look at civil rights, it should be not about the quality of results. it might reflect that there is a republican primary going on, or it might reflect the fact that they are failing t
that will skew the numbers. >> are you done, jim? jim's observations are correct. when i first started factcheck.org, this was late 2003, we went live late in 2003, in the middle of the democratic primary process, they were all about democrats, because george bush was wisely keeping his mouth shut while howard dean and others savaged each other and told horrible falsehoods about each other. when we defend one republican against a falsehood said by another republican -- i have not rejected...
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obama spoke mostly to the moderator, jim lehrer of pbs. >> we still have trillion dollar deficits. the cbo says we'll have a trillion dollar deficit each of the next four years. >> reporter: these two men, they are virtually strangers to each other personally. they've only met in person three times before tonight. most recently, in passing, on a debate stage in new hampshire way back in 2008, when republicans followed democrats in debate three days before the primaries. and there was this brief encounter on the campaign trail in 2007. >> good luck to you today. >> reporter: and while they have both reached the pinnacle of party politics, they are so different. their talents and their paths to power and their debate styles. so much at stake on that stage tonight. this showdown comes at what might be the critical moment in this campaign. a hinge of political history. polls show the race tightening, just 34 days left in this campaign. and you can already sense in the crowds the special energy of the home stretch. but tonight, surprisingly, and in contrast to the daily scrap on the tra
obama spoke mostly to the moderator, jim lehrer of pbs. >> we still have trillion dollar deficits. the cbo says we'll have a trillion dollar deficit each of the next four years. >> reporter: these two men, they are virtually strangers to each other personally. they've only met in person three times before tonight. most recently, in passing, on a debate stage in new hampshire way back in 2008, when republicans followed democrats in debate three days before the primaries. and there...
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to plot how they would ruin the obama presidency eric cantor paul ryan tom coburn jim de mint they were all there and they pledged to each other to show unwavering opposition to block every single one of the president's policies moving forward no matter what the president proposed they promised that they would say no and that's just what they did meanwhile senate minority leader mitch mcconnell blatantly laid it all out when he said that the top priority for republicans was to make barack obama a one term president. top political priority over the next two years should be to deny president obama's second term. their obstruction during the first two years of the obama administration worked mostly in the senate where they could use filibusters procedures like colds and filibusters and republicans capitalized in the twenty ten midterms to take control of the house of representatives which meant that they were in control of the powerful house government oversight committee and could spend the next two years launching an investigation after investigation which shot after which shot all direc
to plot how they would ruin the obama presidency eric cantor paul ryan tom coburn jim de mint they were all there and they pledged to each other to show unwavering opposition to block every single one of the president's policies moving forward no matter what the president proposed they promised that they would say no and that's just what they did meanwhile senate minority leader mitch mcconnell blatantly laid it all out when he said that the top priority for republicans was to make barack obama...
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it's almost george sorerus and jim simon on one hand versus sheldoned a elson on the other. does it ever cross your mind that maybe it doesn't matter as much as we think it might in the sense that the arc of the obama campaign was not thrown off track by all of the money coming in from adelson and the others. >> you could say that. we're not infallible i think the candidate is ultimately the most important thing in politics, and i think there are some problems that mitt romney doesn't seem to be able to overcome, i think that helps. but there is 40 days left in the election, and there is a lot of money that has not been spent and is not on the airwaves. the real fall barrage is perhaps yet to come. >> eliot: you said you are so -- ahead of the curve on tracking where the money is coming from and where it is booing. one of the early indicators of senior republican dissatisfaction will be when the money begins to swift away from the -- presidential race towards the senate. is that something you are starting to see. >> no, i'm not. we're all looking out for that and of course i
it's almost george sorerus and jim simon on one hand versus sheldoned a elson on the other. does it ever cross your mind that maybe it doesn't matter as much as we think it might in the sense that the arc of the obama campaign was not thrown off track by all of the money coming in from adelson and the others. >> you could say that. we're not infallible i think the candidate is ultimately the most important thing in politics, and i think there are some problems that mitt romney doesn't...
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i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs, i love big bird. i actually like you, too. i'm not going to keep spending money on things -- >> let's -- >> let's get back to medicare. the president said the government could provide it at a lower cost without a profit. let's -- >> let's not. let's let him respond. let's let him respond to this specific on dodd/frank and what the governor just said. >> massachusetts governor mitt romney rolling over the debate moderator, jim lehrer, of pbs last night during the first presidential debate of this campaign season. joining us now for the interview is dan rather, host of "dan rather reports" on access tv. anchor of cbs' "evening news" for 20 years and a veteran observer of the campaigns. thank you. >> always a pleasure to be here. >> what is your reaction overall to the debate last night? i am assuing you think mitt romney won the debate. what do you think is important about it? >> i think what's important about it is it gives governor romney a chance to get a second look from the electorate. when he was
i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs, i love big bird. i actually like you, too. i'm not going to keep spending money on things -- >> let's -- >> let's get back to medicare. the president said the government could provide it at a lower cost without a profit. let's -- >> let's not. let's let him respond. let's let him respond to this specific on dodd/frank and what the governor just said. >> massachusetts governor mitt romney rolling over the...
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. >>> speaking about republican voter fraud in florida, i had jim greer, the florida chair of the former -- the former florida chair of the republican party on the show and he told me what this is really all about. watch. >> i sat in on many meetings where it was discussed of how to make sure that what happened in 2008, when president obama brought out the college age voter, the minority voters, never happened again. make sure the republican party has an advantage in this upcoming election by reducing early voting, putting roadblocks up for potential voter, latinos, african-americans to exercise their right to vote. >> let's bring in melissa harris-perry. what do you make of this ironic twist in the voter fraud story? >> i think there's a couple of important points here. one, the things that republicans have been doing in state legislatures across the country to so-call address voter fraud, things like ending early voting, limiting the hours of the polls and, of course, the i am poe significance of voter i.d., none of those measures would impact the kind of voter fraud that it looks like
. >>> speaking about republican voter fraud in florida, i had jim greer, the florida chair of the former -- the former florida chair of the republican party on the show and he told me what this is really all about. watch. >> i sat in on many meetings where it was discussed of how to make sure that what happened in 2008, when president obama brought out the college age voter, the minority voters, never happened again. make sure the republican party has an advantage in this...
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but it won't be generated by jim hehrer. megyn: unless he goes rogue. >> reporter: if he goes rogue then we have an interesting story. megyn: when you think jim helrer you think -- now don't. see you at 6:00 p.m. on "special report." we got a fox news poll of what likely voters are thinking about the president's handling of libya. more voters, 43% say they disaproper of the president's handling of the attack. in just a short while we'll be joined by andy card, the former chief of staff for president bush. we'll ask him how he thinks the media would be covering it if it were his boss in the white house right now. off to the campaign trail we go. governor mitt romney appealing to voters in the battleground state of the commonwealth of pennsylvania. he spoke at the valley forge military acaddie where he hammers the president on the looming fiscal cliff and proposed cuts to military spending. john roberts is live in wayne, pennsylvania. >> reporter: a very famous place here. valley forge. governor romney today was talking to stu
but it won't be generated by jim hehrer. megyn: unless he goes rogue. >> reporter: if he goes rogue then we have an interesting story. megyn: when you think jim helrer you think -- now don't. see you at 6:00 p.m. on "special report." we got a fox news poll of what likely voters are thinking about the president's handling of libya. more voters, 43% say they disaproper of the president's handling of the attack. in just a short while we'll be joined by andy card, the former chief...
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apparently clre mccaskill thinks we do, too, because she was very aggressive at the bate which en r against jim talen. she had a confidce and was much more ladylike in 2006. but in the debate friday she came on swinging and i think that's because she feels threatened." republicans are trying to ignore rpoersai est sexistomment. think it's best if the nrsc weighs in on these questions because we're so focused on the presidential." the nrcc spokesperson said, "decline to comment." it gets wors according to "the los angeles times" akin told supporters, "the first two minutes, wow, it's liksomebody l a wdcat ou tag she was just furious and attacking in every different direction which was a little bit of a surprise to us." you know, it's par for the course, from t candidate who said this -- >> it seems to me, first of all, frhauntaro doctors, that's really rare. if it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. >> of course, akin tried to apologize and now that republicans arstruggling to regain t senate, they are starting to throw their support behind the con
apparently clre mccaskill thinks we do, too, because she was very aggressive at the bate which en r against jim talen. she had a confidce and was much more ladylike in 2006. but in the debate friday she came on swinging and i think that's because she feels threatened." republicans are trying to ignore rpoersai est sexistomment. think it's best if the nrsc weighs in on these questions because we're so focused on the presidential." the nrcc spokesperson said, "decline to...
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i want to say something, jim. this man has been disparaging my plan with all this washington fuzzy math. i want you to hear a problem we've got here in the usa. if you're a single mother making $22,000 a year and you have two children, under this tax code, for every additional dollar you make, you pay a higher marginal rate on that dollar than someone making more than $200,000 a year, and that is not right. my plan drops the rate from 15% to 10% and increases the child credit from $500 to $1,000 to make the code more fair for everybody, not just a few, not just a handful. everybody who pays taxes ought to get some relief. >> having cleared that up, we're going to a new question. education. governor bush. both of you have promised dramatically to change -- to change dramatically public education in this country. of the public money spent on education, only 6% of that is federal money. you want to change 100% of the public education with 6% of the money, is that possible? >> we can make a huge difference by saying i
i want to say something, jim. this man has been disparaging my plan with all this washington fuzzy math. i want you to hear a problem we've got here in the usa. if you're a single mother making $22,000 a year and you have two children, under this tax code, for every additional dollar you make, you pay a higher marginal rate on that dollar than someone making more than $200,000 a year, and that is not right. my plan drops the rate from 15% to 10% and increases the child credit from $500 to...
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. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i like big bird. i actually like you, too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for. that's number one. >> that comment definitely ruffled some feathers. in fact, someone created a twitter handle "fired big bird." he or she has sent out several tweets and pictures, fired big bird has already more than 23,000 followers. >>> the vice presidential candidates will face off in their only debate a week from today. it will take place at center college in danville, kentucky. the maryland congressman chris van holland has been playing the role of paul ryan. >>> the next presidential debate will be on october 16th in long island, new york. the second debate will take place on the campus of hofstra university and will be in the format of a town hall meeting. that means undecided voters will ask the questions. the candidates will focus on foreign and co-do mdomestic pol. >>> tim kaine is opening up a gap in the virginia senate race. t
. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i like big bird. i actually like you, too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for. that's number one. >> that comment definitely ruffled some feathers. in fact, someone created a twitter handle "fired big bird." he or she has sent out several tweets and pictures, fired big bird has already more than 23,000 followers....
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just for you right here on "mad money," i'm jim cramer and i will see you tomorrow! hey, larry, time for your big predebate special. it's going to be terrific. >> free enterprise versus government planning. it's the debate of the decade and it happens in just a couple of hours. good evening. i'm larry kudlow. this is a special edition of "the kudlow report." you're looking at a live picture of the university of denver. 8:00 p.m. eastern, president obama and mitt romney will face off in their first of three debates. we have an all star panel tonight. former congressman rick lazio and former clinton white house aide keith boykin. and herman cain tells us what it's like to debate kevin madden. it's all about leadership and leadership means taking control of the conversation. that's just my advice. in an anemic overall economy, we've seen some positives in recent days. the ism services surprised on the up side today, 15 million car sales yesterday and of course stocks have been rising since a year ago today. the s&p is up 32%. so things can't be all that bad. how will th
just for you right here on "mad money," i'm jim cramer and i will see you tomorrow! hey, larry, time for your big predebate special. it's going to be terrific. >> free enterprise versus government planning. it's the debate of the decade and it happens in just a couple of hours. good evening. i'm larry kudlow. this is a special edition of "the kudlow report." you're looking at a live picture of the university of denver. 8:00 p.m. eastern, president obama and mitt romney...
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. >> jim, let's -- we've gone on a lot of topics there. it's going to take a minute to go from medicaid -- >> go ahead. >> you said you get a deduction for taking a plant overseas? i've been in business for 25 years. i have no idea what you're talking about. i maybe need to get a new accountant but the idea that you get a break for shipping jobs overseas is not the case. >> on the stump yesterday in front of a crowd of 30,000 people in madison, obama seemed to have his swagger back. >> the guy on stage last night, he said, he'd never heard of tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas. never heard of them. and he said, if that's true, he must need a new accountant. so now we know for sure that wasn't the real mitt romney because the real mitt romney is doing just fine with the accountant that he already has. >> not wasting time, his campaign has doubled down with a new ad calling mitt's last-minute moderate make-over an extreme make-over into question. >> why won't romney level with us about his tax plan? according to experts he woul
. >> jim, let's -- we've gone on a lot of topics there. it's going to take a minute to go from medicaid -- >> go ahead. >> you said you get a deduction for taking a plant overseas? i've been in business for 25 years. i have no idea what you're talking about. i maybe need to get a new accountant but the idea that you get a break for shipping jobs overseas is not the case. >> on the stump yesterday in front of a crowd of 30,000 people in madison, obama seemed to have his...
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aa >> jim, on the campaign trail, governor romney today more energized? >> absolutely. we were with him on his campaign plane during the day and as he got on the plane, he was smiling, he was laughing with his campaign staff. there was a spring in his step. there was an air of confidence in this campaign that i haven't seen in several weeks and in talking to senior romney advisor eric fehrnstrom, he said to me if this was a prize fight, they would have stopped the fight. that's how well they think mitt romney did. they're not going to be taking their foot off the gas pedal, i can tell you that the romney campaign came to the back of the plane just as it was landing here in virginia earlier this afternoon. they were starting to sense that the story, the narrative was starting to change from sort of a post-debate high for mitt romney to this new counter-offensive from the president going after some of the statements that mitt romney made during this debate. they came back to the back of the plane as the plane was landing and i asked ed gillespie, a senior romney advisor,
aa >> jim, on the campaign trail, governor romney today more energized? >> absolutely. we were with him on his campaign plane during the day and as he got on the plane, he was smiling, he was laughing with his campaign staff. there was a spring in his step. there was an air of confidence in this campaign that i haven't seen in several weeks and in talking to senior romney advisor eric fehrnstrom, he said to me if this was a prize fight, they would have stopped the fight. that's how...
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jim, thank you for joining me. >> thank you for having me on. appreciate it. >> you had no political experience, jim, until you began your campaign. i'm sure your constituents want to hear what makes you qualified to serve in congress? >> i'm a business guy. i've created a lot of jobs. i understand the economy, budgets, how to get things done. obviously michele bachmann doesn't. so i'm prepared to go to congress and get things done, bring people together, make this economy work again and she doesn't. >> you just heard the congresswoman, though. how does your plan for the economy differentiate from hers? >> first and foremost we're not going to lower the minimum wage. that doesn't help anybody. what we need is good wage jobs. she's pledged to go to norquist and coke brothers. i'm pledging myself to the people of the sixth district. i know how to get a budget done. we need to be bipartisan about that, come together and talk reality. real solutions for the real problems. create good livable-wage jobs. i've created thousands of jobs my whole life. s
jim, thank you for joining me. >> thank you for having me on. appreciate it. >> you had no political experience, jim, until you began your campaign. i'm sure your constituents want to hear what makes you qualified to serve in congress? >> i'm a business guy. i've created a lot of jobs. i understand the economy, budgets, how to get things done. obviously michele bachmann doesn't. so i'm prepared to go to congress and get things done, bring people together, make this economy...
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moderator jim lehrer will start each segment off by asking a question. he will give each candidate two minutes to answer the question, and then they'll use the remainder of the time to have a discussion about the topic at hand. so that's how it's going to work. of course, both of these candidates putting the final touches on their debate preparations. they're being incredibly tight-lipped, which, of course, is frustrating to those of us in the media about how exactly these debate preparations are going but both ann romney and first lady michelle obama will be there tomorrow night in denver. one more interesting note, martin, it is the first couple's 20th anniversary tomorrow night. they will be together, they will be together in denver, and they will have a proper celebration this weekend. >> wow. celebrating and working at the same time. nbc's kristin welker. thanks so much. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare? that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up t
moderator jim lehrer will start each segment off by asking a question. he will give each candidate two minutes to answer the question, and then they'll use the remainder of the time to have a discussion about the topic at hand. so that's how it's going to work. of course, both of these candidates putting the final touches on their debate preparations. they're being incredibly tight-lipped, which, of course, is frustrating to those of us in the media about how exactly these debate preparations...
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and for now from boston, i'm jim lehrer thank you and good night. from coral gables, florida, i'm jim leery, thank you and good night. from oxford, mississippi, thank you, senators, both, i'm jim lehrer, thank you and good night. ( applause ) >> good job. >> good job, john. >> woodruff: that interview with jim and kate leerir was record last fall. >> ifill: again, the major developments of the day: president obama and mitt romney prepped for their face-to-faceÑi meeting tonight in denver, where they will square off in the first debate. and the syrian civil war threatened to boil over, after mortar fire from syria killed five people in a village in turkey. the turks fired back at targets in syria. and in a new project launching today, the "newshour" is allowing you to make your own political ads. kwame holman explains. >> holman: gwen, the adlibs mozilla game let's the viewer be the candidate. you can mash up your facebook photos to make personalized political ads. find that on our home page. today in making sense, with millions of americans still o
and for now from boston, i'm jim lehrer thank you and good night. from coral gables, florida, i'm jim leery, thank you and good night. from oxford, mississippi, thank you, senators, both, i'm jim lehrer, thank you and good night. ( applause ) >> good job. >> good job, john. >> woodruff: that interview with jim and kate leerir was record last fall. >> ifill: again, the major developments of the day: president obama and mitt romney prepped for their face-to-faceÑi meeting...
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with more on that tonight in the "ridiculist." 8 joining us from the campaign trail, jim acosta with the romney campaign and jessica yellin is in madison, wisconsin with the obama campaign. are the obama campaign at least off the record admitting it was not a good night for the president, putting it mildly. we've heard a lot of spin. do they believe that spin? >> they will say on the record it was not a good night for the president, yes. they say they will adjust going forward. here's one way they will adjust, i think. you know, the president's biggest asset they believe is his likability, and they want to protect that at all costs but one of the ways they have to do that, it seems they thought was to preserve it by keeping him from going on the attack. that meant he didn't defend his policies enough and that meant that he didn't challenge mitt romney enough. and it came across badly last night. so the challenge for the president is what al gore faced in 2000, where one time he held it back too much, he overcorrected in the second debate and came across as too aggressive, missed the
with more on that tonight in the "ridiculist." 8 joining us from the campaign trail, jim acosta with the romney campaign and jessica yellin is in madison, wisconsin with the obama campaign. are the obama campaign at least off the record admitting it was not a good night for the president, putting it mildly. we've heard a lot of spin. do they believe that spin? >> they will say on the record it was not a good night for the president, yes. they say they will adjust going forward....
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jim, jessica, thanks. sure would. >>> digging deeper now, what happened last night, what comes next. our political analyst, david gergen, gloria borger. we've had 24 hours to think about it. the spin the obama campaign has been pushing in the last 24 hours, especially today that mitt romney at the debate last night changed his tune from the campaignrail, that's -- and that is what caught the president off-guard, does that run the risk of backfiring if the obama ca isn't careful? >> it sure does. they've got to worry about, as jessica pointed out, being overly aggressive now, slugging it out too much, turning it too negative. but in truth, anderson, i think there is some damage that's come to the obama campaign. i think some things have changed. we don't know what the balance will be for romney, we have no idea what will happen the next few days but what we do know is "a," tomorrow the story's going to change again because we will have new unemployment numbers and we will be focused on is the jobs report go
jim, jessica, thanks. sure would. >>> digging deeper now, what happened last night, what comes next. our political analyst, david gergen, gloria borger. we've had 24 hours to think about it. the spin the obama campaign has been pushing in the last 24 hours, especially today that mitt romney at the debate last night changed his tune from the campaignrail, that's -- and that is what caught the president off-guard, does that run the risk of backfiring if the obama ca isn't careful?...
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the cover story details that and i urge everybody involved in this process including jim lehrer to try to make the last 40 days better than what we've seen so far. the country deserves better and these candidates are better than their campaigns in terms of trying to actually tell the truth about the challenges we face. >> thank you to emmy darling mark halperin for leaving us less depressed and less confused than when we started the hour. thanks for your time, mark. >> thanks, alex. >> coming up, not so great expectations, both campaigns try to lower the bar ahead of tonight's debate we will try to sneak a peek inside the playbook. smoke screen and strategy with the obama campaign's ben labolt, just ahead. time for the entrepreneur of the week. andrew is the fourth generation of rosenwach tanks. find his family's wooden water tanks on hundreds of new york city rooftops. these tanks are shaped by hand with half century old tools. he says you don't throw out what works. you just build upon it. watch your business this sunday morning at 7:30 on msnbc. i'm only in my 60's... i've got a nic
the cover story details that and i urge everybody involved in this process including jim lehrer to try to make the last 40 days better than what we've seen so far. the country deserves better and these candidates are better than their campaigns in terms of trying to actually tell the truth about the challenges we face. >> thank you to emmy darling mark halperin for leaving us less depressed and less confused than when we started the hour. thanks for your time, mark. >> thanks, alex....
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we also saw missouri state republicans coming out in support for akin senator jim demint, rick santorum also releasing a statement of support. newt gingrich in missouri campaigning with akin this week. what has changed there for all of these supporters? what are they saying? >> well, what changed is that akin, now it turns out correctly declining to drop out until there is evidence he was dead in the water. and he was on the ground. he knew that there was a potential path to just not drown in his own ill advised comments about women and rape. and that's why it is a listen in politics that if you think you have a chance, don't let others talk you into quitting. i mean there is something to be said about that. and surely the republicans would rather a republican from missouri than claire mccaskill. and this is the time in the campaign when reality sets in, and all is forgiven. and if he can demonstrate through polls. >> sure. >> that he is viable, then money will flow. don't expect romney or ryan necessarily to come to his rescue. they've already -- they've got their own campaigns. they c
we also saw missouri state republicans coming out in support for akin senator jim demint, rick santorum also releasing a statement of support. newt gingrich in missouri campaigning with akin this week. what has changed there for all of these supporters? what are they saying? >> well, what changed is that akin, now it turns out correctly declining to drop out until there is evidence he was dead in the water. and he was on the ground. he knew that there was a potential path to just not...
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thank you jim. >> thank you governor, thank you mr. president. >> the next debate will be on thursday october 11th. for now from the university of denver, i'm jim lehrer, thank you and good night. >> that's the end of the first >> that's the end of the first presidential debate between governor romney of massachusetts and president obama. you see both men being greeted by their wives on stage. even this portion of the debate is negotiated ahead of time by the campaigns in terms of which members of their family will be joining them on stage. this is, these these are negotiated down to this level of detail. in terms of how the overall debate unfolded, i personally do not know who won this debate. i do feel that we saw this debate format die a very painful death on camera tonight. the contrast between the candidates was stylistic as much as substantive. president obama i think calm and basically explanatory tonight. governor romney, more hyper, and i don't mean that in a negative way, just sort of more amped, more assertive. and that mani
thank you jim. >> thank you governor, thank you mr. president. >> the next debate will be on thursday october 11th. for now from the university of denver, i'm jim lehrer, thank you and good night. >> that's the end of the first >> that's the end of the first presidential debate between governor romney of massachusetts and president obama. you see both men being greeted by their wives on stage. even this portion of the debate is negotiated ahead of time by the campaigns...
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my advice, ignore jim lehr, and, like i do with juan williams... ignore the question and, do not answer jim lehr, speak to obama in the second person, you have failed and here's what we can do differently, to make it a sharp contrast. >> chris: interestingly enough, liz, when i talked to congressman ryan, about the fact that romney needs a clear victory, because of the state of the polls, he pushed back, very much against that. does he need a clear victory? >> yes. he does, i mean, i think there is universal consensus he has to shake up the trajectory of his race and a safe performance will not probably be enough at this point. having said that, i think it might not be that hard for romney to get a win in the first debate, challengers tend to get the win in the first debate against the incumbent. >> chris: by the fact they're on the same stage with the president. >> and presidents sometimes feel on some level a little irritated they have to go through this and sometimes it customs across and, i think the dynamic, actually, in some ways, all romney
my advice, ignore jim lehr, and, like i do with juan williams... ignore the question and, do not answer jim lehr, speak to obama in the second person, you have failed and here's what we can do differently, to make it a sharp contrast. >> chris: interestingly enough, liz, when i talked to congressman ryan, about the fact that romney needs a clear victory, because of the state of the polls, he pushed back, very much against that. does he need a clear victory? >> yes. he does, i mean,...